Showing posts with label Trolling. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Trolling. Show all posts

Aug 28, 2008

Brown is mad?

Liberal Conspiracy discusses the "Brown is insane" meme.

I think that we should learn to love, cherish and adopt the term "concern trolling".

Aug 2, 2008

Trolls on the internet! Oh my!

I suppose I better mention it, since people will be wondering why I didn't if I don't.

Yes, I have read the New York Times article on internet trolling. And firstly, is it just me, or is really fucking embarassing when you have someone writing an article when:

a) they really don't have a clue what they are talking about, and
b) the topic is removed entirely from its natural environment and dissected in the sterile lab of the mainstream media?

Its not just me, I hope.

So anyway, yes, I was alerted to this article by a compatriot troll, Ten Ton Mantis. And now I have finally read through it. The above quibbles above, I'd just like to make some minor points:

  • Trolls existed before /b/. The first paragraph implies otherwise.
  • /b/ is not the be all and end all of trolling. In fact, in the last couple of years, it has been downright embarassing.
  • At least you mentioned Usenet. Thank fucking god. However, the naive-noob tactic was just one of many used back in the day, and really only an entry level tactic. alt.syntax.tactical, for example, favour the longer term, infiltration and sockpuppet approach.
  • Lulz is not how trolls "keep score". Its an abstract concept, and a massively overused word, when considered against actual instances of lulz. It can be excuse, justification or result, as well.
  • The troll got it dead on. Article over, amirite?
  • Um...Anonymous and the trolls were one and the same, at least originally. I understand there was a something of a split between the /i/nsurgents and moralfags, but lets be honest, for the most part, its the same people who took part in both.
  • The fact that anonymous communications allow for people to be more sociopathic is not new nor interesting. Learn2sociology, plz.
  • Jason Fortuny is a fun guy, but he doesn't speak for me.
  • You probably got suckered by one troll or another in the course of your research. Live with it son.
  • Not all trolls are emotional fuckups. Some of the most extreme ones probably are, but I wouldn't generalize, or imply in the way you did.
  • Sometimes trolls are social hackers, its true. And literal ones as well. Anyway, the point is, sometimes they illustrate things people tend to overlook, either in their social interactions online, how they present themselves, the amount of information they give out. Something like that. Better to get burned for it by a jerk with an inappropriate sense of humour than by the next Ted Bundy. Its not always a perfect justification, and sometimes a line should be drawn, yes, but thats a very grey area and another debate.
  • Don't take it all so seriously is pretty much the message I try to relate as well. Sometimes the internet is useful for important stuff, but 99% of it is going to leave a very poor and shallow cultural legacy. I like to think I am doing my bit for people who think "OMFG MY MOM WONT BUY ME A FURSUIT FOR MY BIRTHDAY" or having their "artwork" criticized is a crime against humanity. Twits with no perspective and big mouths are far too numerous.
  • Weev was trolling you dude. He does have a point though, about certain bloggers. Those few suckup artists who the media like to go crawling to in order to pretend that they are keeping up with the new internet culture and soliciting feedback from voices that would normally be excluded. Like Iain Dale for example. Real fucking excluded, isn't he? Lets try a single mother blogger who is working while trying to raise her three kids. Oh, thats right, people like that don't have time to blog. And even when some people in some part of the world where dangerous and interesting things are happening (such as Iraq) people would rather get their views from the likes of Charles fucking Johnson than someone who actually lives there. Because, God forbid, they may contradict the media narrative.
  • I like this Kate chick. She has style. Kate, if you're reading...well, you know how to get in touch, I'm sure.
  • Hatred? I wouldn't go that far...of course, I would expect a MSM hack from somewhere like the NYT to give that line. But I wouldn't try to look too deeply into a troll's motivation. Mine, for example, the above aside, comes from my trickster and showy personality. I like to be the centre of the attention, and yet at the same time, display certain ambiguity. There are also certain people I like to upset, and if you've read this blog for any length of time, you can probably guess what type they are.
  • I would say trolls are the internet. The interesting parts at least. Just as pirates where the ones who innovated much of our modern world, economy and culture (where would commercial radio be without pirate stations? What about the US government, who stole patented technologies throughout the 18th century?) trolls push the boundaries and in doing so create new online realities. The internet may not be so much the Wild West as a number of armed enclaves among a sea of anarchy. Sure, if you stick to places like Myspace or Facebook or your politically chosen network of blogs you'll be mostly safe...aside from the occasional raider. But in other areas, the only things that exist, from your identity upwards, are those you choose to invent. That anarchy, while terrifying to some, is also a lab for inventing, tampering with and altering all number of social events and processes.
  • Those state legislators are idiots. You can't police the net, at least not in the way you hope to. Hell, people cant even stop copyright infringement, and "Spartacus actions" among legally threatened bloggers are frequent. Try it with people who know how to conceal their identity and enjoy games where the roles and characters are not as substansial as they may appear, and you're entering a policing nightmare.
  • Precisely. The law is not your hug-box. I am not responsible for your hurt feelings. I'm sure you could do something more productive with money spent on trying to police jerks on the net, such as nearly catching Bin Laden and then letting him go in order to justify the invasion of Iraq Iran.
  • Fortuny is right. OpenID and similar schemes for multiple site IDs are doomed to failure because so long as you can get more than one account, you are back where you started. So you either charge for everything, and create a gated community (urgh), or you don't take everything so seriously. Pretty simple, really.
  • Fortuny's morals are not everyones. Again, there are different motivations.
  • What a delightfully hopeful note to end your article on. It still doesnt change the 99% of the net which is different, however.

I think that is all I really have to say. I probably shouldn't have had a couple of beers while writing this either, but oh well, too late to worry about that now.

Apr 17, 2008

I think I may be in love...

And that is not something I say lightly. But then again, its not every day I find a cam-whoring, ex-stripper, who trolls for cash...and so, having done so, I find her somewhat fascinating.

For those of you who don't have a finger on the pulse of mainstream/left-wing blogging in the UK, I am talking of the delectable Ruth Fowler. She of Comment is Free infamy. Over the last week or so, she has pretty much managed to wind up much of the UK left wing blogosphere. Well, at least the parts of it I have visited.

And when you look at some of her articles, it is not hard to see why she has caused such a stir. Here are a few selected articles and their subtitles, links provided.


The antichrist for feminists
There I was, thinking I was just making a quick buck, when all the time I was illustrating that feminism is about choice


Club rules
Lefties are supposed to be the nice ones. But increasingly, liberals are just puritanical hypocrites


Flab isn't fab
You don't get fat by accident. Eating so much requires Olympic-class stamina and athleticism


And imagine lobbing these into the sort of people who frequent the Guardian for anything except entertainment. Yeah, precisely, its hilarious and designed to do only 2 things:

wind people up
get her name better known (for her book)

And of course, it does help that Ms Fowler is not only getting paid to troll, which is enough to earn my respect, and is fairly intelligent and well-read, which catches my interest. She is also quite the looker. Here is one of the more...work safe pictures from her site (although most of them are fairly tasteful, so if your employers have a liberal policy, feel free to sneak a look).




Yeah, precisely. I shall have to watch her future articles very closely, I think. I love a trouble-maker, especially of her potential.

Feb 10, 2008

Anonymous protests part 2: electric boogaloo

Since the other entry was getting insanely long and bogged down with all the pictures and videos, I'm starting a second one.

First off, a little bit of misinformation spotting. It appears someone went on Indymedia and spread the rumour that the Perth protests had turned violent:



Needless to say, this is 100% FALSE and has been taken down by Indymedia soon after they were alerted to it. I don't think you even need 3 guesses to figure out who put that story up.

Secondly, the final two Boston pictures (that I have recieved, anyway...)



I'm not sure if that is a journalist or a tourist, but either is good, I suppose.



Not totally sure whats going on here...but it looks like they are having fun.

Well, anyway, I'm not hearing much in the mainstream media about New York or Clearwater, so I'm going to go lurk on a few select boards and see what information I can find.

20:07

Pictures and videos of the Edinburgh protest are available here.

Secondly, for any /i/nsurgents reading this page, you might want to look at this post from the Operation Clambake forums while considering your future strategy.

20:19

The President of the Manhatten Church gets swamped by New York Anonymous here (YouTube link).

Also, pictures from the New York protests are up on 4chan. A few are included below:







Also, the potentially most interesting protest, that in the Scientologist homeland of Clearwater, Florida, can bee seen here (Photobucket account).

20:32

Uncomfirmed news from Encyclopaedia Dramatica:

About a third of all Anon currently online who attended a protest report being followed.
One Scientologist was arrested for trying to remove the mask of an Anon.
Some CoS buildings have removed signs and paint indicating they are a CoS branch (not that it matters, since they have been marked using Google map and earth well before now, but anyway...).

20:41

Scientology has jumped into 8th place on Technorati's search rankings. About bloody time. Hopefully this will help it gain some traction with the mainstream media, who really seem to have dropped the ball on this one, so far.

20:53

Anonymous makes a statement for the public via YouTube. A transcript can be found here. Also, the Boston protest has been snowed off, according to the people attending.

21:09

Glosslip is back up....went down there for a bit. I suspect they are getting heavy traffic. Anyway, check out their entry on the Detroit protests.

21:25

News from the Toronto protests. Everything seems to be going well there, the cops seem to be in good humour about the whole thing. You can watch a short Youtube video of the protest here.

And here are some photos:







Rumours that Scientologists were arrested in London for trying to take masks off protesters, but I'm not finding anything concrete on that so far. As always, more as I get it.

Also, there are still people protesting in Boston, despite the apparently terrible weather. Its all still on, I am informed. Video of the Boston protests are also available here.

ITS ON LIEK RED DAWN!

I'll be live-blogging reports from Boston about the Church of Scientology/Anonymous protests throughout the day, thanks to our own covert HIMEOBS agents who have decided to take part there. However I want to cover what is happening in the rest of the world too, so that is what I will do as well. All times are for the UK.

NOTICE: THIS THREAD IS INSANELY LONG, THEREFORE I HAVE STARTED A NEW ONE HERE. This entry has so many images it is massively slowing up my not very old laptop, which is not a good sign.

13:31

Reports coming in from Australian Discordians about the Anonymous protests already look promising.



According to news.com.au, over 150 people attended the Sydney protests, chanting among other things ""Church on the left, cult on the right", "Religion is free" and "We want Xenu"."

More on the Australian protests can be found at the Anonaustralia blog. Hopefully soon Pope Felix over at The Madcap Laughs will also get his own material up from the Melbourne protests, which apparently went down well.

I'm going to get lunch, then check what is happening in the rest of the world.

13:50

More pictures and video from the Australia protests:







14:02

Might be some protests happening up York way, according to the York Press. However, the BBC News website is being unusually sloppy and is not reporting on anything happening in London, and I am too lazy to get on the raid IRC channels (not to mention no-one will be there anyway). Daily papers probably wont report anything, and the protests are almost certainly ongoing, so I may have to wait until this evening to see any videos on Youtube etc

Might check out 4chan, 7chan and 711chan after lunch.

14:09

According to 4chan, there are over 50 and possibly up to 100 people attending the Edinburgh protest, and over 300 at the London one. BBC and Sky News are covering it on TV, but naturally, I don't have a television. Goddamnit. Still, it sounds like both protests are bringing the thunder.

14:23

Paris protests aren't looking too impressive, going by 4chan. Then again, its hardly like 4chan is known for its large French contingent. Maybe the French Canadians will do better. A picture from the protest.



14:34

Bad quality picture from the London protests, looks like they certainly have the numbers there however. Australian press is all over the protests as well, hopefully the UK will catch up. US protests should be starting in a couple of hours.



14:47

Video from the London protests. Might take a while to load. Go to http://www.qik.com/anonlondon if you want to see more as they come in.



15:20

More videos from London, this time on YouTube.






16:10

First images from Boston are coming in. Haven't checked the US news much yet, will do so once this is up



16:22

Several more pictures from Boston:



Protesters making their way to the venue.



Hah, excellent advertising for the Operation Clambake website.



Moving on to the CoS centre, I'm guessing...



Spelling out some Horrible Troofs



PADDLE FASTER, I HEAR THETAN TRUCKS!



Half-hearted protesting there, methinks...


16:37


Even more coverage from Boston.




Now that's a little more like it!



Directly outside the Church now



Low quality picture of the Scientologists videotaping those taking part in the protest. Good thing they're all masked up...



Scientology closed due to Thetans.

More as I get it.


17:03

More information on the London raids available from Glosslip.com (cheers for the link, D!). In particular, note the video for the NYC raid.


17:15


D-Day letter from Anonymous being circulated around the internet. As usual, click to expand:



17:21

Nick Cohen on Comment is Free makes reference to todays protests and Anonymous, in the context of freedom of speech and the UK's exceptionally unjust libel laws.

Publishers and every variety of American journalist from left winger to neo-con are demanding court judgments and new laws from US politicians to protect them from Eady and his kind. They have grasped that, far from promoting freedom, the net is allowing Saudi billionaires, Scientologists and soon, I imagine, Vladimir Putin's stooges and the agents of sovereign wealth funds to come to London and secure a banning order that could be enforced anywhere in the world.

Today's anti-Scientology protesters may seem obsessive. Although they promise to be non-violent, their planned raids could turn nasty. But they understand better than bowdlerising judges and appeasing archbishops that the freedom to speak, argue, examine and satirise is the best defence against all the cults that seek to indoctrinate and subjugate our fellow citizens.

More as I find it.

17:35

Pictures from the...um, less than extraordinary Dublin raid, from 4chan:



Obviously not the strongest showing ever...



Still, its enough to warrant at least two members of the Garda, I suppose.



Not to mention this Scientologist official who wanted to know what was going on. Clearly not up on current events.

More pictures of London and Boston on their way.


17:45


Two latest pictures from Boston



A lovely rainbow there



And yet another camera from within the building, taping the protesters.



Naturally, the car was playing The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up.

18:03

Some fantastic pictures of the London raid, all taken from 4chan. As always, click to enlarge (some of these are huge).



Horse police



The signs are well worth reading.



WHERE ARE YOUR ORGS NOW?



Outside the main CoS centre in London



The dude with the 'fro certainly adds a special something to this protest.



If nothing else, Anonymous are giving the cops in London some easy duty for the day



Can't think of a good caption for this



It might be obvious murder is a crime...but apparently not. At least, for some people. The other half of the London photos will be forthingcoming in a while.

19:13

The London Pictures Part Deux




Face facts: you will never be as cool as the guy on the right.



Anonymous in London has been exemplary. This is a surprise, for anyone who has ever visited any of the *chan sites.



I admit it, I laughed.



As much as I'm sure the forced abortion/CoS issue is very important and serious, my eyes keep being drawn to the Longcat banner, whether I want to or not.



Even the cops are enjoying the protest.



(insert wry comment here)



On Tottenham Road...I think.

Also hi to all the guys and gals from the Randi forums and Glosslip who are currently visiting! I feel so special.

Feb 3, 2008

Operation Chanology: Cos Raids set for Feb 10th

If you hadn't already seen the blog entry done by The Madcap Laughs, let me direct you to it. Yes, Anonymous is going to be protesting outside the various cult centres of the CoS on February 10th, thats exactly one week from today.

Personally, I'm not taking part, because of aforementioned money troubles, and because the other people who I know who are going will likely try and drag me into a pub crawl afterwards - and I absolutely have to be up early the next day. But I'll be lending a hand to the Edinburgh protesters and will be there electronically, if not physically.

Also, since I like Anonymous and don't like the CoS, I've been trying to spread the word among various Discordian groups as well. As far as I know, there will be Discordians showing up at New York, Portland, Edinburgh, Melbourne and London, to give a helping hand. Probably some in other areas as well, but I only know so many people.

Anyway, if you want a definitive list of CoS centres that are going to be protested at, go here. So, if you happen to be free on the day, and are near one, go give a helping hand (mindful of the dress code, however). Its a good cause, after all....

Jan 20, 2008

In the internet age, nothing is banned for long

Oh dear. It looks like the Church of Scientology decided both Tom Cruise and their expensive legal teams were not getting enough exercise, so they let the vertically challenged Messiah out of his cage long enough to embarass them on video, then sent in the legal team to clear up the damage and prevent it becoming a laughing stock.

Unfortunately, this is the age of the internet, and there are just so many unscrupulous people about, who will think nothing off making duplicates copywrited material and disseminating it around the internet for everyone to see. For example, I managed to find the below 2 links with just a few minutes of searching.

Download link one
Mirror link

Fortunately, its in .flv format, so not too many people will be able watch it without downloading some sort of free program.

Interestingly enough, the internet has decided to declare War on Scientology as well. At least, the parts of it on the various 4chan spin-off sites, including the HACKERS ON STERIODS of Fox News infamy. Along with mass dissemination of the Tom Cruise video and Scientology texts, there have been DDoS attacks against the Scientology site as well, which reportedly was down for a while. Operation Chanology has a lot of manpower and is even more amusing than the Church of Scientology, so I wish it well.